The discussion tracks compatibility of ASN Bank’s Dutch banking app with Android systems that lack Google services, especially GrapheneOS. In 2022, one user reported that the main banking app worked without Google Play or Play Services, including login, QR scanning and payments. Others found they could not log in without Play Services, apparently because the app checked internet connectivity through a Google dependency. The participants distinguished the main banking app from ASN’s separate contactless-payment app, which did not work without Google services. The disagreement leaves compatibility dependent on the app, its version and the user’s setup.
The issue gained renewed attention in November 2026, when a customer said ASN had told them GrapheneOS was unsupported for Wero because of security requirements. Wero’s operator replied that it prioritizes widely used platforms and does not undertake troubleshooting for unsupported configurations. Users challenged this explanation, noting that GrapheneOS is Android-based and that Wero works for them through other banks’ apps. One reported that Wero payments failed with ASN, while another said they continued to work through Triodos, which had previously accommodated GrapheneOS signing keys. Contributors suspect ASN may be using Google’s Play Integrity checks, but the thread does not establish the precise technical cause. The exchange raises concerns about excluding alternative Android systems from banking and payment services.
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